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Now that a lot of us have had a chance to listen to a number of the Pink Floyd 2011 remastered discs, which titles do you think offer the biggest sound quality improvement over what you have previously owned / heard? You may vote for an unlimited number of titles. I am curious to see if we can get a consensus on which disc(s) offer the biggest sound improvement. The Piper at the Gates of Dawn A Saucerful of Secrets Soundtrack from the Film More Ummagumma (live + studio) Atom Heart Mother Meddle Obscured by Clouds The Dark Side of the Moon Wish You Were Here Animals The Wall The Final Cut A Momentary Lapse of Reason The Division Bell All of the Above None of the Above.
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I have been listening to Meddle over the past couple of days and I have been most impressed with the improvement in sound for this one - especially on the song Echoes. I can honestly say that the 2001 remaster of Echoes really blew me away. The drums sounded like they were right there in the room with me. I also agree that Animals is also a significant improvement. Even though this is not one of my top / favorite albums by them, after listening to the remaster I really got into it a lot more than I have previously.
DSOTM and WYWH are the other two I have listened to. While both sound good, I wasn't blown away by either. I'll be moving on to The Wall next. Well, I was extremely impressed with the 2011 'Atom Heart Mother' when I heard it a few days ago. I have not replayed it or compared it to the Sax remaster as yet which I was never disappointed with so I can't say for certain that it is an improvement.
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I also have the 2011 'Piper.' , 'Saucerful.'
'More', 'Obscured By Clouds' and 'Animals'. Of these titles I have only listened to 'Obscured.' And 'Animals' so far and I was underwhelmed.
Well admittedly I was extremely tired at the time and not really in the right frame of mind so I didn't give them a fair hearing. I have always loved the sound of the Sax 'Obscured By Clouds' so I was expecting big things from the 2011 Guthrie but I didn't think the difference was all that significant. When I have the chance to listen to them properly I will post futher comments and place my vote in the poll.
This guy from amazon.com seems to like Animals a lot ' Pink Floyd, is a hard band to EQ. Turn up the highs and lose the lows. It also works the other way around.
So having to turn UP your stereo up to massive sound levels of volume just to hear more detail, rarely works see: Steve Hoffman. JAMES GUTHRIE and Co., have found a perfect balance between the too quiet Hoffman CDs and too loud CDs. ANIMALS, has always been remastered way too quiet. Even those Japanese versions left you wanting just a bit. Animals, was very well recorded to begin with.
It just needed a TAD more volume to put it over the edge. So this 2011 remaster has a little more volume and everything sounds just amazing. These are not just a rehash of the 'Oh, By The Way' box set CDs. These are much better sounding. If you liked the sound of the remastered BEATLES' volume and sound, you will just love this. Also, if you loved the volume / cleanliness and clearness of, ECHOS: The Best Of Pink Floyd e.g. SHEEP you will also love this version.
OR, if you loved Peter Gabriel's 2010 remasters you will just love this regular CD. If you are expecting, LED ZEPPELIN: MotherShip, kind of volume you will be disappointed. As I have written before; this CD has the perfect balance between too quiet and too loud. I can also apply this review too the other regular CDs called, The Dark Side of the Moon, Wish You Were Here and Meddle all a little louder. Each at a different volume, the sound volume increase suited for each particular CD. Some more volume, more clarity for each different instrument and all wonderful!!!
A Momentary Lapse Of Reason, sounds a little better than the 2005 version which also had some re-mixing done by, Guthrie. SO, this is not just another rip off and is well worth your money.
Love the 2011 masters; the only one that doesn't offer any upgrade is the live disc that comes with Ummagumma. I'm also kind of on the fence about Piper as to whether I like it better than the 2007 stereo CD, but I prefer the mono version anyway. I think for the 2007 stereo remaster Guthrie used DNR to scrub the weird tape artifacts an earlier poster described, so if you don't like hearing those things then it might have the edge. If you prefer to have the music presented exactly as it is on the master tape, then go with the 2011 disc. Click to expand.Some European 1992/1994 CDs are incorrectly labelled as Doug Sax, they are actually original masterings (level-shifted in most cases).
'Animals' is one of these cases and very easy to spot: its mastering is much closer to the vinyl, while the Sax is brighter and closer to the early American/Japanese mastering on CD. Other cases are: - 'A Saucerful Of Secrets', which sounds atrocious as it's heavily NR-ed; - 'Meddle', which is the same as the raved-about early Japanese mastering; - 'Dark Side Of The Moon', which is the first EMI mastering, to me it's harsh and the worst mastering I've heard of this album; - 'Wish You Were Here', see DSOTM. 'The Final Cut', which is maybe a different mastering from the original european one, but it's different from the '97 Doug Sax On the contrary, the european 'The Wall' is a rebalanced Sax mastering, different from the US version and a forum-favourite. It seems like a 'real' Sax Remaster for Europe has a typical symbol (a kind of circle) on CD spine, which the non-Sax remastered albums do not carry. Hope this helps. With all the buzz about new PF remasters I was prompted to get out all my versions of DSOTM and compare them again. Fairly standard version, surprisingly OK for the price - Mofi UDCD 517, best in MHO - 20th Anniversary EMI Made in Holland, kinda OK - 2003 remaster hybrid SACD which has the ugly reworked cover, un-listenable - Short answer is the Mofi is the only one that I can enjoy from start to finish.
The rest are just plain annoying to listen to and I have never made it all the way through any of them. I'm making a big assumption here (and will probably get attacked for it) but I suspect none of these newer remasters that are the current buzz will beat the listening enjoyment I get with the MoFi. I can listen to the Mofi continuously all the way through and just get lost in the music. Sure the other versions reveal details which you may hear differently on the Mofi.
But again the Mofi just sounds right to me and gives me the most enjoyment. Therefore I could not be bothered to waste more money on new versions only to be disappointed when I am already fully satisfied with the Mofi version. So far I have only bought DSOTM and WYWH from the new 2011 remasters and here are my thoughts on the discs. Something about them just doesn't sound right to me. I have bought DSoTM on various formats over the years, vinyl, cassette, CD, SACD, iTunes and so forth.
I have listened to pretty much every version and every remaster you can name. To my ears the new remaster, although certainly not the worst, just doesn't sound right.
It differs from track to track for me. Some of them sound great, especially 'The Great Gig in the Sky', which I really like on the new remaster, but then others sound really weird and maybe even a bit 'harsh', particularly 'Speak to Me/Breathe' and 'On the Run'.
If anyone has seen the waveforms then maybe they will understand where I am coming from on this. I wouldn't go as far to say as the new discs are 'brickwalled', but they certainly aren't 'warm' and there is not much 'room to breathe'. Vinyl is still the best way to listen to Dark Side of the Moon for me.
Pink Floyd Meddle Remastered
The only way if I'm honest. Click to expand.Hi If your CD is an EMI release then it's not a Sax remaster. The 'real' Sax-remastered Animals was only released in 3 shapes: - Shine On Box - Columbia 1997 'Anniversary Edition' - Capitol 2000 - 2004 reissue of the 1997 edition All EMI (hence, european) 'Animals' 1994 releases have the Remasters artwork, state that they are remastered by Sax, but they are sourced from a previous european mastering from the 80s.
This also happens to other titles as well, as grandegi correctly stated, the most notable being 'Saucerful of secrets' (the european 'remaster' is sourced from an old and unlistenable master instead). So, I really think, in this post we should be aware that we are really comparing 2011 remasters to real Sax remasters and not to old european masterings.
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In terms of comparison, I think that the improvement between the Sax remasters and the new ones is very little, at least fot the albums I've heard. Since I have the Sax remasters I won't be buying any other 2011 remaster. I'll try to get some FLACs to compare the other albums and the only reason for me to buy another 2011 remaster of a given PF album would be that the sound is clearly superior to the Sax remaster. Also, I really HATE the packaging. Those crappy 'ecopacks'.
That only can be a deal breaker for me.
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